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In 2022, the U.S. Supreme Court could overturn Roe v Wade, imperiling women’s rights and access to abortion. But reproductive justice is just one of many fronts on which women’s bodies, safety, lives, and livelihoods are under attack, subject to systems built by and for men, most of them rich and white. In the face of all this, it’s easy to get defensive or reactionary. But Laura’s guests in this episode say that what we really need is a complete transformation of our system. Black abolitionist feminist Beth Richie and In 2022, the U.S. Supreme Court could overturn Roe v Wade, imperiling all women’s freedoms, and creating a new pipeline to prison for the vulnerable just as the world is learning how counterproductive most incarceration – solutions are. Today’s guests argue that things could have been very different if the white dominated “choice” movement had paid closer attention to all women’s choices, or lack thereof; if anti-violence advocates had rejected criminalization and incarceration as a solution to the violence in women’s lives. Things could have been different, our guests argue, if a different part of the US women’s movement had gained more attention – attention it is beginning to get now. There has always been such a movement, they know, because they were there. Today we talk to Black abolitionist feminist Beth Richie and Queer southern feminist Suzanne Pharr who have worked together, for abolition, feminism, and a systemic differently world for forty years. What have they learned? And what is their message for us now, when so much hangs in the balance?
