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In this historic, inter-generational meeting of minds, Laura Flanders brings together New York Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and MIT professor emeritus Noam Chomsky—for the first time ever—to discuss the way forward for people, politics, and the planet. From labor strikes to racial uprisings to climate action to the Great Resignation, they reflect on the renewed power of collective organizing and the changing tide in economic thinking and electoral politics. Their insights demand that we think differently about everything from our nation’s history and its place in the world, to who can run for office in America and win. In their first face-to-face conversation, the mutual admiration is palpable. Laura closes with some thoughts on thinking the unthinkable.



“We’re now having one of the major strikes in American history when workers are simply saying, ‘We’re not gonna go back to the rotten, oppressive jobs, or precarious circumstances, with no health.’ The one-sided class war of the last 40 years is becoming two-sided…”
—Noam Chomsky

“There are already communities actively experimenting and developing solutions… What I work on is not how we find solutions but how we scale to transform our society.”
—AOC